So giving has always been a part of my family's legacy.

Yes. I grew up in a church giving family. I grew up where my mom was the music director of the church, and we had to.

We understood the 10% and not just in actual finances, but in time as well. So we were a part of the food development of the church in building the walls, the structure. And I thought that that was really cool back then. And my wife didn't really grow up in a church community, whereas I did. And that was special to me because a lot of my friends currently, like my longtime friends, a lot of them are from church...